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REALLY? Are you fucking kidding me!? So you think this is the appropriate response when women accuse you of “mansplaining”? REALLY?

I agreed with you when you were talking about the complaining in regards to the 19th amendment, I got where you were coming from, but this…

I don’t care about how you intended it. Grow the fuck up and move on. I’m sorry you felt ganged up on. I am. But posting this is absolutely offensive, regardless of your intent and it’s not really helping your first point.

I think it raises a good point: What DO women like the one who railed against the amendment want? To rehash historical wrongs ad nauseum? To dwell on the negativeinstead of embracing the positive? Is it impossible to appreciate something that’s imperfect? Is equality a joke and power a zero-sum game for all? Are white men going to be cast as the villain for the rest of eternity? Just. Fucking. Curious. — Ryking

I agree that sometimes it seems like things are never enough and no one can appreciate the accomplishments we’ve made (as in society, not women collectively) but posting this (even as a rhetorical joke) is not helping your argument and, to me, it made you look like a major tool. There’s nothing wrong with celebrating social accomplishments and there’s nothing wrong with reminding ourselves that more can be done to make the world better but making what boils down to a “sandwich joke” about revoking the 19th amendment isn’t helping your point about celebrating it when jokes like that are still made. And you (who argued we should celebrate it for the amazing accomplishment it was in the 1920s) perpetuating something like this is only helping undermine the overall accomplishment rather than celebrate it.

While I agree with many of your points, I don’t see how this sarcastic post can be taken seriously on its face (and can’t be bothered worrying about that because if I worried about people being offended I couldn’t write a fucking thing) and I don’t see that it makes me look bad but I think, despite the sarcasm, it asks a good question. Do some of the complainers think we’d be better off if the amendment never passed? I’d really like to know. — Ryking

It’s not about me being offended it’s about the damage perpetuating statements like this (regardless of intent) can do. If you really don’t see how something like this isn’t taken seriously, then you have never been to a facebook “sandwich” group, where misogynistic “jokes” like this are stated (and believed) by the men who run them. Perpetuating this idea is offensive to the passage of the 19th amendment and it implies that because women ganged up on you about your opinion they should therefore be stripped of the right to vote (in a completely joking manner of course, there’s no hint of retaliatory anger in reblogging this, it’s just a joke).

I’m not a “complainer” as you put it about the 19th amendment and brave-slut made it clear that no one was saying we’d be better off, even implying that that question was proposed is ridiculous. Women deserve the right to vote and be seen as equals, the “complainers” as you put it were merely pointing out that the passage of the 19th amendment did not include all women, which is a fact. The statement that you were originally mad about struck me the same way as it did you (I can’t remember how you put it exactly but somewhere along the lines of “I didn’t get mine so I don’t care that you got yours” or something). So, I can’t answer on behalf of the “complainers” as you put  it (because I was not one of them) but reblogging this “sarcastic” question reeks of male privilege and you need to realize that. It’s undermining your original argument to reblog something so misogynistic, if you want to be listened to, if you don’t want to be accused of “mansplaining”, then reblogging shit like this is probably the worst way to go about it.